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We can update the picture with Russian protests as the top current item. Suggest Saint Petersburg or Moscow. Brandmeistertalk 09:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Bagumba please could you swap for one of the images suggested above? The image of Navalny himself doesn't appear in the target article and since this story is about the protests not about him, I agree with Brandmeister that a protest pic seems preferable. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 10:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Amakuru: Sorry, I swapped in Navalny without even knowing of this discussion. I'm limited on mobile for a while, so feel free to swap it out. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 10:59, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Bit of a shame that five hooks in this set are US-centric, I think we could mix it up a bit better than that... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
    This afternoon's queue has only three US hooks (up from two, since Napoleon's penis seems to be strangely mostly about the US). So I suppose those two could have been better balanced. I wouldn't worry too much over a 5:3 split in either direction myself though. Prep builders can only work with what they're given, and there is also the BLP/non-BLP split to cater for...  — Amakuru (talk) 09:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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General discussion

Wording for banner at top of talk page

Do you think we could make the wording on the banner at the top a little less... combative? Right now it reads:

Welcome! This page is only for discussing the contents of the English Wikipedia's Main Page.
It is not for general questions unrelated to the Main Page, nor is it for the addition of content to Wikipedia articles.
Irrelevant posts will be promptly removed without prior warning.
Click here to report errors on the Main Page.


Something like:

Welcome! This page is for discussing the contents of the English Wikipedia's Main Page.
For general questions unrelated to the Main Page, visit the Teahouse or check the links below. To add content to an article, edit that article's page.
Irrelevant posts may be removed.
Click here to report errors on the Main Page.

I think rewording would make it more welcoming to new users, since Wikipedia is difficult enough to navigate and edit as is. Personally, if someone accidentally posted here I don't think it's too big a deal to just point them in the right direction. Thoughts? Fredlesaltique (talk) 06:59, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

I like your proposal. It gets the same message across in a gentler, more welcoming fashion. I also like including a link to the teahouse or other help space. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Agree. I've always thought that after 100 reverts, people here have trouble empathizing with newcomers. Art LaPella (talk) 18:31, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Is this something on which we could perform a crude experiment? For instance, if we try the proposed new wording, could we compare the rate of reverts before and after? If the rate isn't noticeably higher, and we don't notice any other detrimental effects, then the politer version should be preferred. In other words, it seems worth a try, provisionally. Jmchutchinson (talk) 07:31, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
@Jmchutchinson: Could you clarify what you mean by measuring rate of reverts? Fredlesaltique (talk) 08:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
My wording was just a response to Art LaPella's comment immediately above ("after 100 reverts"), and the implication that some people are perpetually busy with reverting numerous inappropriate contributions to the main this page. Thinking about it, I probably check the main this page often enough myself to know that there aren't that many cases per day when this needs to be done, but sometimes I see a response steering the errant contributor to a more appropriate venue. The test would be whether the need to do this jumps up if we soften our language. I have no idea if there is an easy way to measure this quantitatively, but maybe we only need to worry if the effect is obvious. Jmchutchinson (talk) 09:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Personally, I think if reverts are still occurring under our current banner, then however we word it bears no correlation to how many reverts we will end up having to make. It seems to me that people are just not reading it, the same way people fail to notify editors that they're bringing to WP:ANI despite the big warning at the top of the page.--WaltCip-(talk) 13:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
This shouldn't need a lot of big deal discussion to make incremental improvements. It might not help the problem, but could be friendlier. @Fredlesaltique: the text of that box is located here: Talk:Main Page/HelpBox, Be bold and update it!. — xaosflux Talk 14:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I've changed the banner! I simply just used the suggested message! Feel free to change it if you think it could be better. Frogface08 (talk) 21:49, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, it looks like I got the ball rolling lol. I've learned that making bold changes on well-trafficked pages leads to ruffled feathers, so I usually post here first to gauge things. @Jmchutchinson:@WaltCip: The way I see it is reverts just come with the game, kinda like how in a restaurant you don't try and prevent 100% of potential customer scams cause it's part of the territory, you just assume good faith and roll with it. Plus people are going to make mistakes, just kinda happens.
Couple other places I'd like to put in more welcoming wording, and glad to hear I wasn't the only one who noticed this. Cheers, Fredlesaltique (talk) 01:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

The banner sounds much better now. Thank you Fredlesaltique for this useful proposal! Felix558 (talk) 05:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding a link to the Teahouse in the “Other areas of Wikipedia” section

I think this will encourage new editors to ask at the Teahouse rather than go to the help desk. Interstellarity (talk) 17:07, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Remark: this is from Template:Other areas of Wikipedia. — xaosflux Talk 18:18, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
This was asked 6 years ago at Template_talk:Other_areas_of_Wikipedia#Teahouse? (different person). Please show consensus. (FWIW I think the teahouse might be a good addition.) --Izno (talk) 18:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)