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  • Please update the article with references first. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 18:59, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • The article is already updated and these refs are taken from the article. Please fix. Thanks. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 20:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Please add an   to J. J. Williams to prevent his initials being split across multiple lines. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 20:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
    That's not the way to do it. Better to use [[J. J. Williams (rugby union)|{{nowrap|J. J. Williams}}]] to stop the splitting. Bazza (talk) 20:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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Amalthea (bot) which maintains Main Page history is down again

Main Page history has stopped being archived. It is usually created by Amalthea (bot) (which has not edited in 5 days). The bot's owner Amalthea is not very active these days. This is about the fifth time that the bot has gone down in the past year.

ProcrastinatingReader has a bot replacement ready. See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ProcBot 3. @Xaosflux: we can email Amalthea again and try to get their attention. However, I think we should just activate ProcBot 3 instead. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Since SPI does not need the bot (see below). We should temporarily block Amalthea (bot) and active ProcBot 3. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
FWIW I still have the code for task 3, and am happy to run it, if it is needed. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
@ProcrastinatingReader: If you tell me when you're ready to begin I will block Amalthea (bot) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:24, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
That bot isn't editing, so why would it require a block? — xaosflux Talk 22:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I guess the concern was that if the bot restarted then they might conflict with each other. ProcrastinatingReader suggests that won't be a problem, however. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:04, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
MSGJ, I can begin whenever. My task is set to createonly, so if that bot comes back up, my bot just errors on create and should skip (vice versa if I set my creation time to before that bot's), so they shouldn't necessarily collide. I think that bot is down until the operator restarts it, though. I'd appreciate clarification from a BAG member (xaosflux perhaps?) if the old trial from task 3 is valid and if I should begin it, before I start. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 22:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Task now running. See eg Wikipedia:Main Page history/2020 October 23b. Someone who knows how may want to update {{2020 Main Page history}} with the b pages. Let me know if any issues arise! ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 00:24, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
@Coffeeandcrumbs: hmm. Wikipedia:Main Page history/2020 October 23 and Wikipedia:Main Page history/2020 October 23b are the same. And looking at [4] it seems like it's only updated once per day? Am I missing something? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
ProcrastinatingReader, remember, I said to make it conditional on whether User:DYKUpdateBot/Time Between Updates is equal to 86400 or 43200.
However, I think I like that it saves twice a day everyday. It catches changes at ITN and other error changes. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 16:06, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

SPI overview

Amalthea (bot) also maintains Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cases/Overview which has not been updated in 5 days. This was last discussed at Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_81#Amalthea_(bot) where Majavah said that DeltaQuadBot can do the same task. Courtesy ping AmandaNP. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

My bot is always live, and it's already been switched over several days ago. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 17:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

CCI overview

Per above, Amalthea (bot) was also in charge of updating the CCI overview here but it hasnt updated since October 13th. Is there another bot that could take over this task or does a bot need to be requested? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:19, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Link to the Arts portal

Can anyone change the link to the arts portal from Arts to The Arts? The title of this article has recently been changed and the links should be updated. Thanks, Interstellarity (talk) 11:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Changed to The arts. Stephen 11:52, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Maybe change the order so that it comes after Technology in alphabetical order. Interstellarity (talk) 12:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
The portal's page displays "The Arts", but here it's "The arts" which looks odd. Title Case would be better. (And I would not include articles ("the") in the sort order. Bazza (talk) 12:52, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I think it is best to develop a consensus regarding the placement of the arts on the Main Page and whether it should be title case or sentence case. Please see my proposals below. Since the main page is one of the most sensitive pages on Wikipedia, most changes to it would require a consensus. Interstellarity (talk) 19:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I've now WP:BOLDly changed the portal page to read "The arts portal" in sentence case, as is de rigueur across Wikipedia. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 11:43, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
@Ravenpuff: Except on Portal:Biography, Portal:Geography, Portal:History, Portal:Mathematics, Portal:Society, and Portal:Technology. As we seem to be addressing this (rightly) through concensus, I suggest that you undo that change until there's a decision for all portals as to their headers being in Title Case or Sentence case. Bazza (talk) 11:54, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 1: The article the should be regarded in the placement of the words in alphabetical order.

  1. Support as proposer. Interstellarity (talk) 19:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  2. Support things starting with "The" are normally sorted "X, The". Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:22, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
    Yes indeed per below I meant oppose, I wasn't sure what the proposal was (and made my best guess) but yes it should be kept as is which is what I meant to say. Per WP:SORTKEY "Leading articles—a, an, and the—are among the most common reasons for using sort keys, which are used to transfer the leading article to the end of the key, as in {{DEFAULTSORT:Lady, The}}". The benefit of this is that readers don't have to guess if "The" is part of the name or not and what most other reference works etc do, the disadvantage though is that people who know "The" is part of the name will not find it under "The" but given that the "the" has been disputed in the other discussions (the article and category rename proposals) its best to follow the standard practice anyway. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:39, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  3. Heading unclear, but Crouch, Swale is correct that, assuming the "the" is kept, it should be sorted under A, not T. I'm guessing that this is articulated somewhere in the MOS and not something open to changing based on local consensus. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 19:02, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
    To be clear, this change is what I'm proposing for the Main Page. Interstellarity (talk) 19:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  4. There are many different style guides out there, but I have never seen one that supports alphabetizing "The X" under "The". It's always under "X". It is fairly clear here that User:Crouch, Swale meant "oppose", and got thrown off by the somewhat unclear wording of the proposal. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:33, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  5. Sort by "A", not "T" per WP:SORTKEY. Armadillopteryx 23:10, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  6. Sort by "A", not "T" per WP:SORTKEY. Bazza (talk) 09:59, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 2: The link should be in title case rather than sentence case.

  1. Support as proposer. Interstellarity (talk) 19:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  2. Oppose. The entire rest of the main page is in sentence case, not title case. This includes everything from the All portals link to In the news. If a proposal was brought forward to change the entire main page to title case, I'd consider it, but there's no way we should just change this one link, per WP:CONSISTENCY. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 19:05, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  3. Oppose per above and consistent with MOS:CAPS which outside our logo we generally don't capitalize generic terms as per the standard English capitalization rules even though some styles capitalize titles etc. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:42, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  4. Oppose per MOS:SENTENCECASE and MOS:LISTBULLET (and per the link target, which is Portal:The arts, not Portal:The Arts in accordance with the MOS). Armadillopteryx 23:06, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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